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Msg# Date Sz Author Subject =============================================================================== 9096: 2004-11-01 2 Burris Millstone Re: Why change jumpers to test newly cloned drive? 9097: 2004-11-01 1 Garry Deane Re: Why change jumpers to test newly cloned drive? 9098: 2004-11-01 1 Dan Anderson Re: Why change jumpers to test newly cloned drive? 9099: 2004-11-01 0 Garry Deane Re: Why change jumpers to test newly cloned drive? 9100: 2004-11-01 2 des4212001 Re: Unexpected results all of a sudden 9101: 2004-11-01 2 Kan Yabumoto Re: Too many Files in a directory? 9102: 2004-11-01 2 John Re: XXCLONE Failure to boot 1st time 9103: 2004-11-01 0 John Zeman Re: Unexpected results all of a sudden 9104: 2004-11-01 0 lamarmorristicom Change File Dates 9105: 2004-11-01 2 Morris, Lamar Re: Change File Dates 9106: 2004-11-01 1 Kan Yabumoto Re: XXCLONE Failure to boot 1st time 9107: 2004-11-02 1 Dan Anderson Re: XXCLONE Failure to boot 1st time 9108: 2004-11-02 2 Garry Deane Re: Unexpected results all of a sudden 9109: 2004-11-02 3 John Zeman Re: Unexpected results all of a sudden 9110: 2004-11-02 0 peterdavidinnes Copy to new Filename or Directory 9111: 2004-11-02 1 Garry Deane Re: Copy to new Filename or Directory 9112: 2004-11-02 2 John Re: XXCLONE Failure to boot 1st time 9113: 2004-11-02 0 lamarmorristicom Change Files Dates Again 9114: 2004-11-02 0 Garry Deane Re: Change Files Dates Again 9115: 2004-11-02 2 thewoonderer Re: Generation savings by use XXCopy ? 9116: 2004-11-02 1 Morris, Lamar Re: Change Files Dates Again 9117: 2004-11-02 1 culpittsmith Re: XXCOPY BACKUP/RESTORE 9118: 2004-11-02 2 Peter Innes Re: Copy to new Filename or Directory 9119: 2004-11-02 2 John Zeman Re: Copy to new Filename or Directory 9120: 2004-11-02 3 Peter Innes Re: Copy to new Filename or Directory 9121: 2004-11-02 0 marselhober Help! How to copy a file that still opening... 9122: 2004-11-02 0 HMORROW407 error 40 9123: 2004-11-02 0 jimbakeron xxcopy and EFS files 9124: 2004-11-02 0 jeremyrector66 File rename revisited 9125: 2004-11-03 0 Garry Deane Re: Copy to new Filename or Directory 9126: 2004-11-03 0 Garry Deane Re: Help! How to copy a file that still opening... 9127: 2004-11-03 1 Garry Deane Re: File rename revisited 9128: 2004-11-03 0 marselhober Help! How to disable / suppress a prompt ("press any key to continue...") 9129: 2004-11-03 1 John Zeman Re: Help! How to disable / suppress a prompt ("press any key to continue...") 9130: 2004-11-03 3 jeremyrector66 Re: File rename revisited 9131: 2004-11-04 0 rgen248x Reducing disk space Backup requirement 9132: 2004-11-04 3 Garry Deane Re: File rename revisited 9133: 2004-11-04 1 Garry Deane Re: Reducing disk space Backup requirement 9134: 2004-11-04 1 Pat Hyde XXclone destination drive Failure???? 9135: 2004-11-04 0 skasee XXCOPY Freeware and Pro Editions? 9136: 2004-11-04 0 elfen69 lower case copy 9137: 2004-11-04 0 beapit Problems copying files 9138: 2004-11-04 4 Jeremy Rector Re: File rename revisited 9139: 2004-11-04 0 John Zeman Re: XXCOPY Freeware and Pro Editions? 9140: 2004-11-04 0 John Zeman Re: lower case copy 9141: 2004-11-04 0 John Zeman Re: Problems copying files 9142: 2004-11-05 1 Garry Deane Re: Problems copying files 9143: 2004-11-05 1 Garry Deane Re: lower case copy 9144: 2004-11-05 3 marekyarbrough Re: Failure to copy to CD 9145: 2004-11-05 0 Garry Deane Re: lower case copy 9147: 2004-11-05 0 wjaiv Reset Bit on something excluded 9148: 2004-11-05 4 Jeremy Rector Re: File rename revisited 9149: 2004-11-05 3 John Zeman Re: File rename revisited 9150: 2004-11-05 1 John Zeman Re: Reset Bit on something excluded 9151: 2004-11-06 4 Jeremy Rector Re: File rename revisited 9152: 2004-11-06 2 Pat Hyde Still well and truely STUCK????? 9153: 2004-11-07 2 Garry Deane Re: File rename revisited 9154: 2004-11-07 1 Garry Deane Re: Still well and truely STUCK????? 9155: 2004-11-07 1 Pat Hyde Re: Still well and truely STUCK????? 9156: 2004-11-07 1 Garry Deane Re: Still well and truely STUCK????? 9157: 2004-11-07 0 Bill McCarthy What Will Be Deleted? 9158: 2004-11-07 1 Kan Yabumoto Moderation Policy 9159: 2004-11-07 0 Bill McCarthy Re: What Will Be Deleted? 9160: 2004-11-07 0 Kelvin Kirby Fatal error 9161: 2004-11-08 1 Garry Deane Re: Fatal error 9162: 2004-11-08 0 Kan Yabumoto Re: Fatal error 9163: 2004-11-08 6 Kan Yabumoto Re: Still well and truely STUCK????? 9164: 2004-11-08 1 Patrick Hyde Re: Still well and truely STUCK????? 9165: 2004-11-08 0 mihalski help copy only new and changed files in matching dirs 9166: 2004-11-08 0 John Zeman Re: help copy only new and changed files in matching dirs 9167: 2004-11-08 3 Jeremy Rector Re: File rename revisited 9168: 2004-11-08 0 mihalski Re: help copy only new and changed files in matching dirs 9169: 2004-11-08 0 John Zeman Re: help copy only new and changed files in matching dirs 9170: 2004-11-09 1 craig_dayton BDC to W2K via XXCOPY 9171: 2004-11-09 2 Garry Deane Re: BDC to W2K via XXCOPY 9172: 2004-11-09 1 rotaiv Re: BDC to W2K via XXCOPY 9173: 2004-11-09 3 Patrick Hyde Re: Still well and truely STUCK????? 9174: 2004-11-09 0 Pat Hyde So It didn't take too long??? 9175: 2004-11-09 2 craig_dayton Re: BDC to W2K via XXCOPY 9176: 2004-11-09 2 rotaiv Fwd: Re: BDC to W2K via XXCOPY 9177: 2004-11-09 6 Kan Yabumoto about BOOT.INI 9178: 2004-11-09 0 John Zeman Re: So It didn't take too long??? 9179: 2004-11-09 1 Garry Deane Re: So It didn't take too long??? 9180: 2004-11-10 2 divadgnot Excellent Results With Xxclone for Laptop Backup 9181: 2004-11-10 0 divadgnot Xxclone Incremental Backup Slower in XP Than W2K 9182: 2004-11-10 0 Max Munger Not quite done! 9183: 2004-11-10 1 divadgnot =?iso-8859-1?q?Xxclone_of_Laptop_XP_Pro_Disk_Won=92t_Accept_Login?= 9184: 2004-11-10 3 russellgadd Exclude file not working 9185: 2004-11-10 6 John Zeman Re: Exclude file not working 9186: 2004-11-10 0 Virg Re: Exclude file not working 9187: 2004-11-10 0 John Zeman Re: Exclude file not working 9188: 2004-11-11 1 Kan Yabumoto Re: Not quite done! 9189: 2004-11-11 4 Kan Yabumoto Re: Xxclone of Laptop XP Pro Disk 9190: 2004-11-11 0 stephen_bovino XXclone release 10/12/2004 won't run - expired 9191: 2004-11-11 6 divadgnot =?iso-8859-1?q?Re:_Xxclone_of_Laptop_XP_Pro_Disk_Won=92t_Accept_Login?= 9192: 2004-11-11 0 MKanel Re: XXclone release 10/12/2004 won't run - expired 9193: 2004-11-11 2 Max Munger Re: Not quite done! 9194: 2004-11-11 2 russellgadd Re: Exclude file not working 9195: 2004-11-11 0 Garry Deane Re: Not quite done! 9196: 2004-11-12 2 Garry Deane Re: Exclude file not working 9197: 2004-11-12 17 stephen_bovino XXCLONE EXPIRED in XP PRO 9198: 2004-11-12 0 systemsguy3 /BI incremental backups don't seem to work? 9199: 2004-11-12 0 Thomas A Lawell Re: XXclone release 10/12/2004 won't run - expired 9200: 2004-11-12 0 Garry Deane Re: /BI incremental backups don't seem to work? 9201: 2004-11-12 0 mgomgo Re: XXclone release 10/12/2004 won't run - expired 9202: 2004-11-12 0 Kan Yabumoto XXCLONE v.0.21.9 now available 9203: 2004-11-12 2 Kan Yabumoto Re: Xxclone of Laptop XP Pro Disk 9204: 2004-11-12 0 Kan Yabumoto Re: Not quite done! 9205: 2004-11-12 1 stevehb04 XXcopy Newbie help 9206: 2004-11-12 2 Pat Hyde Thanks and Comments?? 9207: 2004-11-12 1 Max Munger Re: [except] Re: Not quite done! 9208: 2004-11-12 1 Colin Culpitt-Smit Better than XXcopy16 at RESTORING !!! 9209: 2004-11-12 3 Jim Mihalski Re: XXcopy Newbie help 9211: 2004-11-12 3 John Zeman Re: XXcopy Newbie help 9212: 2004-11-12 1 John Zeman Re: Better than XXcopy16 at RESTORING !!! 9213: 2004-11-12 2 divadgnot Xxclone: Copy of XP Disk Stalls at Login (still) 9214: 2004-11-12 2 russellgadd Can I suppress this warning? 9215: 2004-11-12 1 ethoscjp /Z0 not showing any deleted files in log 9216: 2004-11-12 0 John Zeman Re: Can I suppress this warning? 9217: 2004-11-12 0 John Zeman Re: /Z0 not showing any deleted files in log 9218: 2004-11-12 0 ethoscjp Re: /Z0 not showing any deleted files in log 9219: 2004-11-12 0 Ray McCormick Xxclone life 9220: 2004-11-13 2 Kan Yabumoto Re: Xxclone: Copy of XP Disk Stalls at Login (still) 9221: 2004-11-13 0 Lynn Lipton Backup to External Drive not working correctly 9222: 2004-11-13 0 Leslie Satenstein xxclone with xp pro sp2, and going from 14gig to 50gig 9223: 2004-11-13 2 John Zeman Re: Backup to External Drive not working correctly 9224: 2004-11-13 4 Lynn Lipton Re: Backup to External Drive not working correctly 9225: 2004-11-13 1 Bill McCarthy Home Network 9226: 2004-11-13 1 Bill McCarthy Re: Backup to External Drive not working correctly 9227: 2004-11-13 0 John Zeman Re: Backup to External Drive not working correctly 9228: 2004-11-13 1 John Zeman Re: Home Network 9229: 2004-11-13 0 russellgadd Re: Exclude file not working 9230: 2004-11-13 2 divadgnot Re: Xxclone: Copy of XP Disk Stalls at Login (still) 9231: 2004-11-13 1 jmvcqnow XXCopy very slow, need help 9232: 2004-11-14 0 julp_freesurf_ch Re: Xxclone: Copy of XP Disk Stalls at Login (still) 9233: 2004-11-14 1 Garry Deane Re: Xxclone life 9234: 2004-11-14 1 Garry Deane Re: xxclone with xp pro sp2, and going from 14gig to 50gig 9235: 2004-11-14 2 Garry Deane Re: Home Network 9236: 2004-11-14 1 Garry Deane Re: XXCopy very slow, need help 9237: 2004-11-14 0 Garry Deane Re: A new face in XARC 9238: 2004-11-14 2 jmvcqnow Re: XXCopy very slow, need help 9239: 2004-11-14 2 Garry Deane Re: XXCopy very slow, need help 9240: 2004-11-14 1 Kan Yabumoto Re: Home Network 9241: 2004-11-14 1 Kan Yabumoto Re: XXCopy very slow, need help 9242: 2004-11-14 0 divadgnot Re: Xxclone: Copy of XP Disk Stalls at Login (still) 9243: 2004-11-14 0 Kan Yabumoto Re: A new face in XARC 9244: 2004-11-14 0 Max Munger Re: [except] Re: exclude with xp pro sp2, and going from 14gig to 50gig 9245: 2004-11-14 2 Pat Hyde Still Stuck????? 9246: 2004-11-14 1 Bill McCarthy Re: Home Network 9247: 2004-11-14 2 jmvcqnow Re: XXCopy very slow, need help 9248: 2004-11-14 1 jmvcqnow Re: XXCopy very slow, need help 9249: 2004-11-14 1 Bill McCarthy Re: Home Network 9250: 2004-11-14 0 John Zeman Re: A new face in XARC 9251: 2004-11-14 0 John Zeman Re: XXCopy very slow, need help 9252: 2004-11-14 2 Ray McCormick Re: Xxclone life 9253: 2004-11-14 2 Kan Yabumoto Re: Still Stuck????? 9254: 2004-11-14 1 edzellarch XXcopy /cloned system not "mbr-able" on my new drive 9255: 2004-11-15 1 Garry Deane Re: Home Network 9256: 2004-11-15 1 Garry Deane Re: Xxclone life 9257: 2004-11-15 2 Kan Yabumoto Re: Home Network 9258: 2004-11-15 2 Kan Yabumoto Re: XXCopy very slow, need help 9259: 2004-11-15 0 Bill McCarthy Copy with Archive Set, Then Reset It? 9260: 2004-11-15 0 Garry Deane Re: Copy with Archive Set, Then Reset It? 9261: 2004-11-15 0 dbates44 Date Created and Date Modified 9262: 2004-11-15 0 Garry Deane Re: Date Created and Date Modified 9263: 2004-11-15 5 Patrick Hyde Re: Still Stuck????? 9264: 2004-11-15 0 Roger E. Rustad, J sample scripts? 9265: 2004-11-15 3 Garry Deane Re: sample scripts? 9266: 2004-11-15 0 Bill McCarthy Re: Copy with Archive Set, Then Reset It? 9267: 2004-11-15 2 divadgnot Re: Xxclone: Copy of XP Disk Stalls at Login (even with Floppy boot) 9268: 2004-11-15 3 John Zeman Re: sample scripts? 9269: 2004-11-15 2 Lynn Lipton Re: Backup to External Drive not working correctly 9270: 2004-11-15 4 Roger E. Rustad, J Re: sample scripts? 9271: 2004-11-16 1 dbates44 Re: Date Created and Date Modified 9272: 2004-11-16 0 Garry Deane Re: Backup to External Drive not working correctly 9273: 2004-11-16 1 Garry Deane Re: Date Created and Date Modified 9274: 2004-11-16 0 Bill McCarthy Re: Backup to External Drive not working correctly 9275: 2004-11-16 2 dbates44 Re: Date Created and Date Modified 9276: 2004-11-16 1 Kan Yabumoto Re: Copy with Archive Set, Then Reset It? 9277: 2004-11-16 1 Kan Yabumoto Re: Date Created and Date Modified 9278: 2004-11-16 2 Garry Deane Re: Date Created and Date Modified 9279: 2004-11-16 0 Garry Deane Re: Date Created and Date Modified 9281: 2004-11-16 6 Patrick Hyde Emailing: XXCLONE 9282: 2004-11-16 3 jmvcqnow Re: XXCopy very slow, need help 9283: 2004-11-16 0 John Zeman Re: Date Created and Date Modified 9284: 2004-11-16 0 dbates44 Re: Date Created and Date Modified 9285: 2004-11-17 1 Kan Yabumoto Re: Xxclone: Copy of XP Disk Stalls at Login 9286: 2004-11-17 0 Pat Hyde Now Unstuck. Beta Test Ref No 19465 9287: 2004-11-17 1 Kan Yabumoto Re: Emailing: XXCLONE 9288: 2004-11-17 2 Kan Yabumoto Re: XXCopy very slow, need help 9289: 2004-11-17 6 Kan Yabumoto Re: Now Unstuck. Beta Test Ref No 19465 9290: 2004-11-17 0 Kan Yabumoto Re: Xxclone: Copy of XP Disk Stalls at Login 9291: 2004-11-17 1 Dan Anderson xxclone - NTLDR and NTDETECT.COM error messages 9292: 2004-11-18 1 Patrick Hyde Re: Now Unstuck. Beta Test Ref No 19465 9293: 2004-11-19 3 jmvcqnow Re: XXCopy very slow, need help 9294: 2004-11-19 3 divadgnot Re: Xxclone: Copy of XP Disk Stalls at Login (even with Floppy boot) 9295: 2004-11-19 1 Patrick Hyde Re: Xxclone: Copy of XP Disk Stalls at Login (even with Floppy boot) 9296: 2004-11-19 0 Patrick Hyde Re: Xxclone: Copy of XP Disk Stalls at Login (even with Floppy boot) 9297: 2004-11-19 1 John Zeman Re: XXCopy very slow, need help 9298: 2004-11-19 1 divadgnot Re: Xxclone: Copy of XP Disk Stalls at Login (even with Floppy boot) 9299: 2004-11-19 2 divadgnot Re: Xxclone: Copy of XP Disk Stalls at Login (even with Floppy boot) 9300: 2004-11-19 0 Patrick Hyde Re: Xxclone: Copy of XP Disk Stalls at Login (even with Floppy boot) 9301: 2004-11-19 1 divadgnot Re: Xxclone: Copy of XP Disk Stalls at Login (even with Floppy boot) 9302: 2004-11-19 1 Virg reboot problem 9303: 2004-11-19 1 waltgallus NTLDR not found 9304: 2004-11-19 1 waltgallus NTLDR not found 9305: 2004-11-19 1 Virg Re: reboot problem 9306: 2004-11-20 2 jmvcqnow Re: XXCopy very slow, need help 9307: 2004-11-20 0 danstrg Only copy *.doc *.xls *.ppt 9308: 2004-11-20 0 Patrick Hyde Re: Xxclone: Copy of XP Disk Stalls at Login (even with Floppy boot) 9309: 2004-11-20 0 Pat Hyde Xxcopy Exclusion List????? 9310: 2004-11-20 4 John Zeman Re: XXCopy very slow, need help 9311: 2004-11-20 0 John Zeman Re: Only copy *.doc *.xls *.ppt 9312: 2004-11-20 2 John Zeman Re: Xxcopy Exclusion List????? 9313: 2004-11-20 0 digi9345 How do I backup using the archive bit? 9314: 2004-11-20 1 Bill McCarthy Re: How do I backup using the archive bit? 9315: 2004-11-20 2 Ray McCormick Re: reboot problem 9316: 2004-11-20 2 John Re: How do I backup using the archive bit? 9317: 2004-11-20 0 Ray McCormick Re: How do I backup using the archive bit? 9318: 2004-11-20 1 John Re: How do I backup using the archive bit? 9319: 2004-11-20 0 John Zeman OT Erunt updated 9320: 2004-11-20 0 John Re: OT Erunt updated 9321: 2004-11-20 0 digi9345 Another backup problem! 9322: 2004-11-20 0 John Zeman Re: OT Erunt updated 9323: 2004-11-20 1 Leslie Satenstein Re: Only copy *.doc *.xls *.ppt 9324: 2004-11-20 1 John Zeman Re: Another backup problem! 9325: 2004-11-20 1 John Re: OT Erunt updated 9326: 2004-11-20 1 John Re: Another backup problem! 9327: 2004-11-21 2 Garry Deane Re: reboot problem 9328: 2004-11-21 2 Garry Deane Re: NTLDR not found 9329: 2004-11-21 1 jmvcqnow Re: XXCopy very slow, need help 9330: 2004-11-21 2 jmvcqnow Strange XXCopy beahvior with Asus A7N8X-E 9331: 2004-11-21 0 Bill McCarthy Re: How do I backup using the archive bit? 9332: 2004-11-21 1 Virg Re: reboot problem 9333: 2004-11-21 0 Patrick Hyde Re: Xxcopy Exclusion List????? 9334: 2004-11-21 2 waltgallus Re: NTLDR not found 9335: 2004-11-21 1 Garry Deane Re: NTLDR not found 9336: 2004-11-21 1 Ray McCormick Re: Another backup problem! 9337: 2004-11-21 1 Ray McCormick Re: How do I backup using the archive bit? 9338: 2004-11-21 0 waltgallus Re: NTLDR not found 9339: 2004-11-21 4 des4212001 Re: Xxcopy Exclusion List????? 9340: 2004-11-21 0 Bill McCarthy Re: How do I backup using the archive bit? 9341: 2004-11-21 0 Bill McCarthy Re: How do I backup using the archive bit? 9342: 2004-11-21 0 dwcriss01 2 way copy 9343: 2004-11-21 1 John Zeman Re: 2 way copy 9344: 2004-11-21 0 Bill McCarthy Re: 2 way copy 9345: 2004-11-21 0 Ray McCormick Re: How do I backup using the archive bit? 9346: 2004-11-21 0 Ray McCormick Re: 2 way copy 9347: 2004-11-22 2 Garry Deane Re: NTLDR not found 9348: 2004-11-22 0 Garry Deane Re: Another backup problem! 9349: 2004-11-22 0 waltgallus Re: NTLDR not found 9350: 2004-11-22 1 Garry Deane Re: NTLDR not found 9351: 2004-11-22 0 Patrick Hyde Re: Xxcopy Exclusion List????? 9352: 2004-11-22 0 Rick Holt Synchronizing two computers 9353: 2004-11-22 0 waltgallus Re: NTLDR not found 9354: 2004-11-22 4 John Zeman Re: Synchronizing two computers 9355: 2004-11-22 0 pstevermer Fastest way to copy millions of files 9356: 2004-11-22 1 John Zeman Re: Fastest way to copy millions of files 9357: 2004-11-23 0 Garry Deane Re: NTLDR not found 9358: 2004-11-23 4 Garry Deane Re: Fastest way to copy millions of files 9359: 2004-11-23 0 Ray McCormick Re: Another backup problem! 9360: 2004-11-24 2 FoxFour XXCLONE FEEDBACK 9361: 2004-11-24 1 Pat Hyde B.B.C Assistance please XC 19465 9362: 2004-11-24 5 iberesilva Re: Synchronizing two computers 9363: 2004-11-24 0 Pat Hyde Help please????? XC 19465 9364: 2004-11-24 0 des4212001 Destination Exclusions? 9365: 2004-11-24 8 John Zeman Re: Synchronizing two computers 9366: 2004-11-24 2 John Zeman Re: Help please????? XC 19465 9367: 2004-11-24 0 John Zeman Re: Destination Exclusions? 9368: 2004-11-25 1 Garry Deane Re: Destination Exclusions? 9369: 2004-11-25 2 des4212001 Re: Destination Exclusions? 9370: 2004-11-25 2 Patrick Hyde Re: Help please????? XC 19465 9371: 2004-11-25 0 Pat Hyde Recovery Conso;e Password XC19465???? 9372: 2004-11-25 3 John Zeman Re: Destination Exclusions? 9373: 2004-11-25 2 des4212001 Re: Destination Exclusions? 9374: 2004-11-25 2 John Zeman Re: Help please????? XC 19465 9375: 2004-11-25 4 des4212001 Re: Destination Exclusions? 9376: 2004-11-25 0 Patrick Hyde Re: Help please????? XC 19465 9377: 2004-11-25 0 Pat Hyde SP2 and SP1 woes???? 9378: 2004-11-25 1 divadgnot Re: Xxclone: Copy of XP Disk Stalls at Login (even with Floppy boot) 9379: 2004-11-27 0 Pat Hyde May be of some help to some newer users. 9380: 2004-11-28 0 jpaccior File Size Limitation? 9381: 2004-11-28 0 Pat Hyde Msg 9377 9382: 2004-11-28 1 Garry Deane Re: File Size Limitation? 9383: 2004-11-29 1 des4212001 Destination Exclusions Re-revisited 9384: 2004-11-29 3 John Zeman Re: Destination Exclusions Re-revisited 9385: 2004-11-29 4 des4212001 Re: Destination Exclusions Re-revisited 9386: 2004-11-30 3 Garry Deane Re: Destination Exclusions Re-revisited 9387: 2004-11-30 0 Maryland Clone prompts for asurance - why? 9388: 2004-11-30 4 des4212001 Re: Destination Exclusions Re-revisited 9389: 2004-11-30 3 des4212001 Re: Destination Exclusions Re-revisited 9390: 2004-11-30 4 des4212001 Re: Destination Exclusions Re-revisited 9391: 2004-11-30 0 Michel Rozenberg KopyMate 9392: 2004-11-30 1 des4212001 Hard to Believe