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Number : 217 Date : 2001-06-17 Author : james sadler Subject : Re: restoring from full CD backup Size(KB) : 6
--- Shep Sweeney wrote: > Dear Dan, > Thank you for your quick and informative response. I > would also like to thank Kan Yabumoto for his input. > I will have to study both responses thoroughly > before > I can even ask any intelligent questions. Kan's > discussion of direct CD sounds promising as I use it > to create the backup CD's and they appear to act > just > like a disk drive. In my case I use 3 CD's: one for > all programs, one for Windows along with all the > miscellaneous stuff under C:, and the third CD backs > up everything else. > One question I do have though is if one were to > reinstall Win98 from the Win 98 CD and then re-enter > all programs etc. how does one get the re-installed > Win 98(and Internet Explorer) updated with all the > updates and fixes that have been made over the past > year or so. Does this happen automatically. I know I > have a Directory called Windows Updates with a bunch > of cab files in it, but I do not know what it is > used > for. > Do you know how one would get all those updates back > in the re-installed Windows 98? > Again thank you both for your help, > Shep Sweeney > --- Dan Anderson wrote: > > > > Hi Greggann, > > > > As some initial input, my understanding is that > you > > will need to re-install > > WIN98 as well as your various programs because, > when > > backing up to CDs using > > xxcopy, important information regarding the match > > between long file names > > and short file names would not have been retained. > > > Kan can point out the > > specific technical note that addresses this issue. > > > You could recover your > > various data-only files just by xxcopying back > onto > > your hard drive after > > you have completed your re-installations. > > > > If you had backed up your information using xxcopy > > to another hard drive > > then you could go through a process of > > re-establishing your operating system > > and programs without re-installing all your > programs > > (see below). If you > > want to burn a recoverable backup to CDs then you > > would need to use > > utilities such as GHOST (in Norton System Works) > or > > Drive Image. > > > > I've also attached below two earlier items (one > from > > Kenneth Ives and one > > from Kan) that relate to your question. I haven't > > seen any further comments > > regarding the use of Doslfnbk in combination with > > using xxcopy nor whether > > the application is generic enough that it could be > > incorporated into a > > future enhancement of xxcopy. > > > > Regards, > > > > ...Dan > > > > > > ===== ITEM 1 ======== > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Kenneth Ives > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 8:49 PM > > Subject: RE: [xxcopy] Re: backup to CDR retaining > > LFN > > > > There is an inexpensive utility which is well > worth > > mentioning here. > > > > I use a DOS utility, I got from D. Murdoch called > > Doslfnbk at > > > http://www8.pair.com/dmurdoch/programs/doslfnbk.htm > > . Current version is 2.5 > > for $10. When you boot to DOS, you run this in > the > > root directory and it > > saves all the long file names to a file. Then do > > your full backup to an > > external storage device. After you do a full > > restore, run this utility with > > a /r switch to update the file allocation table > with > > the long file names > > again. I have never had a problem with a full > > restore using this utility. > > > > To boot from DOS with Windows ME, create a startup > > disk thru the Windows > > control panel, System. > > > > This will allow you to boot directly to a DOS > prompt > > and have access to the > > CD drive. You may have to add a couple > > of drivers to get the CD-Writer to work, but that > > should be in the user's > > guide for the CD-Writer. > > > > Kenneth Ives mailto:kenaso@h... > > > > > > ==== ITEM 2 ========== > > > > From: Kan Yabumoto > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 7:30 PM > > Subject: [xxcopy] Restoring Win9x System disk (C:) > > from its backup (D:) > > > > Here, let me briefly discuss the techniques in > > restoring the system disk > > (C:) from a backup volume elsewhere (D:). > > > > There are two broad cases related to this problem. > > > > 1) When the system drive (C:) is to be restored > from > > a backup > > directory while you are currently running > Win9x > > on C:. > > > > 2) When the starting point does not have a running > > Win9x. > > That is, one way or another, when you need to > > start from > > scratch (formatting volume C:, etc.), you do > not > > have > > an immediate access to the Win9x environment. > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > In case (1), you can use XXCOPY.EXE (32-bit > version) > > which > > can handle the long filename (LFN) correctly. > But, > > you will > > encounter a number of file-copy failures. > Actually, > > there > > are many executable files (.EXE and .DLL) which > are > > running > > at any given moment when you are in Win9x. An > > application > > like XXCOPY cannot open these files for an > overwrite > > operation. > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > The fact XXCOPY /CLONE works so well is > > because these > > files can be accessed in read-only mode. > The > > article, > > > > > > http://www.xxcopy.com/xxcopy/xxcopy10.htm > > > > talks about the /CLONE operation only from > > C: to D:, > > not in the other direction and it is not as > > easy. > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > > > So, when you perform a system restore operation > > using XXCOPY > > form a backup directory (D:) to the system drive > > (C:), you > > will always find a number of files that fails to > be > === message truncated === I liked DOS and we used to have tiny hard drives back in the day. I wonder if we couldn't sys the cdrw drive using xxcopy and then boot to a DOS computer that is in fact nothing but a CD drive. If that works we should be able to manipulate c: while operating from the CD drive. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/
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