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Number   :  1863
Date     :  2002-03-28
Author   :  coondog2_us
Subject  :  Re: "No Operating System" error message
Size(KB) :  3


Kan,
Thanks for the quick response! You're correct in the assumption it is 
W98, however, I did run the full format and surface verify before 
starting the process (and made the boot diskette you suggested which 
is much quicker as promised). I had tried to copy the files to the 
disk previously on an earlier attempt and assumed that the format and 
XXCOPy operations would completely wipe the HD and give me a clean, 
working copy in the end. Maybe that's part of my problem. As this is 
an older computer, the current HD uses Maxtor's EZ-BIOS when it
boots. 
Not sure if that's playing into it also but never got that far into 
the boot to find out. I'll try your suggestions tonight when I get 
home (have to earn the bucks to pay for all this high tech stuff for 
the kids, you know!) and let you know how it turns out. Again,
thanks 
a lot for the help in advance!!
Lee

--- In xxcopy@y..., Kan Yabumoto  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Lee:
> 
> I assume you are running Win9x system (but you should have
> stated that in your message).
> 
> My bold guess is that you took liberty to skip the format
> step (which is Step #1 in the instruction in XXTB #10
> and I do not say you can skip that step).
> 
> For some reason, many people skip that step. When you are
> to initialize a new hard disk from scratch, it is such a
> rare, golden opportunity to initialize the whole volume
> including the FAT data and most importantly the boot sector,
> I just don't understand why people cut corner here.
> The boot sector can be initialized only by the FORMAT
> or SYS commands. While XXCOPY transfer the key files
> that are essential to make it bootable, (IO.SYS, MSDOS.SYS,
> etc.), it does not touch the boot sector (it could do so
> but we deliberately stay within the bound of what XXCOPY
> is supposed to do as a well-behaving, "ordinary" file
> management tool).
> 
> So, my suggestion for you is to run the SYS command
> from a floppy disk (the Windows Setup diskette that
> you must have made from Win9x installation step).
> If you don't have a Win9x boot diskette, you should
> find a Win9x machine and go to
> 
> Control_Panel > Add/Remove_Programs > Startup_Disk
> 
> and create a start up diskette which contains the SYS.COM
> utility. After booting up to the DOS 7.x environment
> from the floppy, type
> 
> SYS C:
> 
> It will reinitialize the boot sector of C: drive
> (and it copies the IO.SYS, MSDOS.SYS and COMMAND.COM
> files which has been copied by XXCOPY in your previous
> steps but re-copying does not hurt.)
> 
> If you succeed booting into the Windows GUI environment,
> I suggest you create the quick boot diskette by
> following the article XXTB #32 which is more convenient
> than the Startup diskette you made from the Windows
> procedure (shown above).
> 
> Kan Yabumoto
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> At 2002-03-27 20:51, coondog2_us wrote:
> >Hi,
> >I'm in the process of building a new computer and used XXCOPY to
> >fdisk, format and finally copy the approx 7.6gb of data on a 40gb 
HD
> >down to a new 20gb HD. I thought I followed the instructions pretty
> >decently as it copied 38,000+ files with only 1 failed (win386.swp)
> >on the first pass then 6 and 1, and on the fourth pass 1 copy and
> >only the 386 swap fail. Did the fdisk /mbr thing and then set up 
the
> >20gb Hd as the primary drive in the existing system I copied from. 
I
> >got the "no operating system" message after the memory test and HD
> >detection went fine. I'm at a loss as to what to do next. Any
> >suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated!
> >Lee



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