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Number   :  4429
Date     :  2003-04-24
Author   :  Kan Yabumoto
Subject  :  Re: Many Copy Failures
Size(KB) :  3


At 2003-04-22 10:16, you wrote:
>I suppose this problem has been posted before, but a couple of
>attempts to locate an on point thread failed so I'm posting.
>
>When I make a total backup with clone I get many "Copy Failed"
>messages. I have a hard time saying how many I get but it's probably
>several hundred. They usually seem to come in batches/groups. These
>failures break down into 2 categories. If I run clone a second time
>it seems to pickup almost all of the files that reported "Copy
>Failed" the first time. From this point forward there are about 30
>files that fail every time clone is run =AD these are the same files
>over and over.
>
>This behavior is not unique to me. A friend I told about XXCopy has
>exactly the same experience, except he only has 2 files that won't
>copy after the second pass. I run XP Pro he runs W98se.
>
>Is this behavior expected/normal? If not, does anyone know a fix?
>
>jim

I suppose Jim is probably talking about copying the whole
system disk on an XP system to another.

(As I repeated million times, whenever a problem of any kind
is being discussed, it is always a very good idea to
include which Windows version you are running ---- here,
you force me to waste my (and everyone else's time) if
my assumption is wrong. --- the command line should have
been helpful.)

Also, when you encounter failed copy, you should not let
it go unchecked. You should always put some effort to
find out which ones failed and see if any pattern emerges.
Usually, always the same set of files fail.

Based upon my very bold assumption that Jim is running
the following command on an XP system:

xxcopy c:\ d:\ /CLONE

It is very common to see the following files to fail:

c:\windows\system32\config\system
c:\windows\system32\config\software
c:\windows\system32\config\sam
c:\windows\system32\config\security
c:\windows\system32\config\default
c:\Documents and Settings\\ntuser.dat
c:\Documents and Settings\LocalService\ntuser.dat
c:\Documents and Settings\NetworkService\ntuser.dat
c:\Documents and Settings\\\UsrClass.dat
c:\Documents and Settings\LocalService\\UsrClass.dat
c:\Documents and Settings\NetworkService\\UsrClass.dat

Plus there log file (append .log to each of the above files).

where
 =3D the current user's name
 =3D Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows\

The grand total of the above is 22 files. I'm not sure
if you will have more files that cannot be copied
in win XP.

If you carefully examine the above, a very clear picture
emerges. That is *ALL* of the failed files are components
to the system registry!!! In case of Win98SE, there were
two major files for the system registry (SYSTEM.DAT and
USERS.DAT) --- with Win ME there were one or two more.
Here with XP, the system registry is broken down into
even more pieces and the user-specific portions of the
system registry info are spread into different directories.
(this point is not immediately apparent to a casual
observer since they are spread over "unexpected" areas).

If you know that certain files besides the files listed
above consistently fail to be copied, please let me know
which ones.

Kan Yabumoto

=20=20



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