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Number : 5448 Date : 2003-08-31 Author : J. Merrill Subject : Re: Locked System (Open) Files Size(KB) : 3
At 08:44 AM 8/31/2003 +0000, garrydeane wrote (in part) >Since neither Kan nor Donald have replied I'll throw in my >2 cents worth! > >There are a number of programs that are able to backup live >registry files e.g. [snip] >As most will be aware, Kan is working on Xxclone which will >provide a complete cloning solution by booting into an alternative >OS so that the previously locked files can be copied regardless >of which application locked them. Will XXCLONE really require me to reboot in order to copy the registry files (and any other locked files)? Until I find (or write) a program that will re-open all my windows to where they were (I just counted 23 icons on my start bar, many of them browser windows with useful Back histories; others are apps with particular files loaded [and being viewed at some particular point]), I do not want to have to shut down just to finish the clone process! >I also suspect that when the work with Xxclone and Xxcopy eases >up, Kan may turn his attention to including the live registry >copy into Xxcopy but I wouldn't count on it "any time soon". > >Garry XXCLONE will be useful to solve the problem it was intended to solve. However, I'm wishing for a solution that preserves all the same information that XXCLONE preserves, but does so via any kind of media -- CD DVD Zip Jaz USB FireWire or even network -- even if that media isn't bootable. (And doesn't require me to shut down to get a copy of the registry!!) The info that XXCLONE is keeping on the alternative bootable drive (other than raw file contents, which XXCOPY handles for us), plus some kind of "recovery disk", would let you replace a failed disk and start a process that would build a restored drive from the preserved info without necessarily having stored the info about the original disk on a bootable drive. For example, I don't know of any way to boot from a disk attached by FireWire or USB 2.0 (not without a machine with a much newer BIOS than any I've got), so XXCLONE only helps there if you don't mind removing the backup disk from its external enclosure and replacing the original -- not even an option if your original is SCSI and your external drive is IDE. External FireWire / USB drives (that can move easily from machine to machine to back up a number of them onto 200+gb disks) don't help you use XXCLONE as it's currently designed, unless each partition can be separately bootable. XXCLONE only helps if you have another bootable hard disk, and it probably needs to be an internal drive or just testing would be a pain. The info Kan was collecting about the minimum stuff needed to boot (various versions of) Windows could be of some value in solving this. Maybe this could be XXCLONE v2. Being able to boot from a "recovery" CD (or even floppy), format the new C: drive if needed, and install enough of Windows on the C: drive (in a different directory than the "real" Windows directory) -- or even run Windows from the CD -- so that you could be running Windows and can do XXCOPY \dst\ c:\ /clone /xc:\tempwin\ won't help unless the registry files exist in the XXCOPY-created destination. (Your next boot would be into your old copy of Windows.) Even running an install of any version of Windows (so long as it can access the disk where XXCOPY stored the data, and supports the file system you want) into \tempwin could also do it. Making that install be "minimal" would just shorten the time involved in getting back up and running. Am I fantasizing about how straightforward this should be, even without your XXCOPY-created clone being stored on a bootable disk, if only the registry files were among those being copied? J. Merrill / Analytical Software Corp
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