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Number   :  9173
Date     :  2004-11-09
Author   :  Patrick Hyde
Subject  :  Re: Still well and truely STUCK?????
Size(KB) :  3


Hi Kan,

Sorry I have been unable to respond to your enlightening email received 8th
November 2004.

You have made a few telling points, which now, I think I fully understand.
Knowing my luck at present, I will screw up quite quickly.
Anyhow.

I shall endeavour not to refer to the C: and D: disks in future.
They shall be referred to as SOURCE and DESTINATION.

You pointed out that xxcopy c:\ d:\ /backup /bc0 and
XXClone c: d: /backup0 /bc0 /start are equivalent.

I have no problem with that at all. I have been using that process for
over a year now I think, Stand to be corrected.

In future I shall use your recommendation.

Now to the interesting part:
Snuggle up cos I want to tell you a story.
I was experiencing a few problems with one of my disks. It is used solely to
hold Downloaded programs and Programs which I have purchased including their
Licence details. So I do try to be very careful.
Anyhow, I had the Power off, cable lying on the floor about three feet away
from the computer. To get to the offending disk, it is housed in as position
underneath the DVDCD player in a 3.1/2 tray I purchased.
To get at it I had to unplug the IDE cables I think you call them, for the
SOURCE and DEST drives.

Finally found that the problem was in fact a loose socket in the Power plug
powering the disk.
So sorted that and in the process of reconnecting, inadvertently placed the
Source IDE Cable into the DEST Drive. Wife had just come in with my
Granddaughter.
Not making any excuses, FACT.

Thought everything was OK so connected everything up, switched on. Up came
my three line Boot.Ini which is Default to option 1 which boots to the
Source Drive.
In a matter of moments XP was up and running.
So again I thought everything was OK.
At the end of the day I did my usual XXcopy and XXclone.
Then went to Restart, selected option 2, which take me to my Dest Drive.
That was the first time I saw that everything was no OK, because up popped
this hal.dll missing etc.

Ah, I thought, what if I just stick in the XXclone Boot disk I had made
quite a time ago.

Tried that, Exactly the same result.
So I then selected option 1 again to boot into SOURCE and there it was.

I managed to send one email I think to Garry Dean,then I switched off.
Following morning nothing worked. Just the hal.dll is missing or corrupt on
both options.

That was as good to me as a BLUE SCREEN of Death.

Story ends.

Previously I had used xxcopy and XXclone to effect my backup or image.
I never once had a problem, after my initial difficulties with just the one
disk partitioned into two partitions, the attempting to clone into the
second Partition.

After all that had been resolved, I had use the above successfully. Option 1
took me to the SOURCE drive.
Option 2 took me to the DEST drive.
I was not aware that I was confused in any way.
The suggestion is that ,"Somehow the second line of my Boot.ini file got
mysteriously changed, and then changed back without my knowledge, " is
somehow stretching the point.

The Boot.ini is still the same to day as it was last week as it was at the
beginninning of the year.

In a way it has been worthwhile, because, now with the system Restored to
Factory condition, I am finding software I did not even know existed on the
system.
But that is another story.

I understand what Kan is saying, at the end of the day the problems created
on this system were created by me.
It could be tarted up, but, I am the culprit.

I also have become aware that when I thought I had done the job properly, I
had not,

So, Kan, thank you for your observations and once again your knowledge.

Sincere thanks


Kind regards

Pat


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kan Yabumoto" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [xxcopy] Still well and truely STUCK?????


>
> Pat wrote:
>
> 
>
> > Source Drive is 40GB Maxtor Designated as C:\Main System Drive.
> > Dest Drive is 40GB Maxtor. Designated as D:\XXCLONED Drive.
> snip>



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