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Number   :  9437
Date     :  2004-12-06
Author   :  des4212001
Subject  :  Re: Drive restore gone wrong
Size(KB) :  3



--- In xxcopy@yahoogroups.com, "m_surgenor"  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the pointers Pat. I did notice your earlier thread and 
> wondered about the similarities! :)
> 
> However I've now moved on a little bit without having to resort to 
a 
> LLF.
> 
> (In the meantime another PC, the one that controls all my home 
> automation crashed last night [it's rarely re-booted] and when I 
> rebooted it I was told there was no boot device! A quick W2K 
repair 
> with the emergency repair disk I had for that machine cured it but 
I 
> think I'll replace that HD soon. It never rains but it pours!).
> 
> Anyway back to my original problem. I managed to borrow a W2K 
> installation disk from a friend today (just to get me moving until 
my 
> own comes you understand!).
> 
> I now have a PC that is bootable again and I want to use XXCLONE 
> again but before i do can i just check out if anyone thinks this 
will 
> work or not please?!
> 
> Before my problems started I had two HDs partioned as follows;
> 
> HD 0 P1 - my c:\ drive my system disk with all my programs
> HD 0 P2 - my d:\ drive with all my data, docs, etc
> 
> HD 1 P1 - my g:\ drive - a weekly backup of c:\ using XXCLONE
> HD 1 P2 - my h:\ drive - a nightly backup of d:\ using XXCOPY
> 
> After my problems below, my c:\ drive was wiped and reformatted. 
My 
> g:\ drive I could boot from but I always got the "winlogon.exe has 
> encountered errors etc" error.
> 
> I got my friends W2K disc, installed a fresh copy of W2K on c:\ 
and 
> was able to boot from c:\.
> 
> Drive g:\ still looked ok so I thought I'd try to boot from that - 
it 
> does! The only problem is all the programs icons on g:\ have 
> properties that point to c:\.
> 
> I'm not really sure what the 'best' way forward is. 
> 
> One half of me says, in the long term, it would be best just to 
carry 
> on re-installing all my programs on the nice clean c:\. However 
> that's another couple of days work and I've been without my PC for 
> three days now as it is.
> 
> My other thought is to do an XXCLONE from g:\ to c:\.
> 
> Or are there other ways forward just by changing drive letters??
> 
> Any assitance will be gratefully received. TIA
> 
> Malcolm
> 

Let me try to make a point that it sounds like you may be missing?

Originally your OS was installed to C:. If you Cloned it (whatever) 
and made a bootable copy, say on G:. When that copy boots, at least 
if it boots, the drive that was originally G: IS NOW C:. The 
installed OS will only run on a drive that is lettered identically 
to that it was installed on. You may be becoming further confounded 
by the fact that any data on D: used in startup of C: gets further 
confused as a copy of D:, on H:(?), probably isn't being used 
(unless you've relettered these drives manually)? This concept is 
quite different that than OS's before NTFS where drive lettering was 
set by the System it's self depending on the order partitions were 
encountered during boot.

Exactly how this drive relettering (and volume relabling) is 
accomplished is felt (by Pixi Labs) to be "too complicated for the 
average user". Unfortunately for me, since I was doing it before 
there was an XXClone, it was necessary to figure it out. (And since 
I'm really not all that smart, I feel it follows that it can't 
actually be too complicated?)

You can see "where" the info is at HKLM\System\Mounted Devices\. 
Details of massaging it without xxclone, while straightforward, are 
somewhat lengthy, but can be provided if you're interested.

But the point is, understanding that booting a "copy" requires the 
copy be seen, drive letter wise, as the original (and hence what was 
the original must then become the copy!). Some apps are even coded 
to the VolumeID as well; Zone Alarm Pro, NetZero, and the Office 
Icons at least, that I know of.

DES



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