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Number   :  9579
Date     :  2005-01-02
Author   :  des4212001
Subject  :  Re: Off Base, Graphics Cards??? XC20434
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--- In xxcopy@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Hyde"  wrote:
> Hi Des,
> "So, I am not alone"
> That has been a question that Mankind has been asking since the 
dawn of
> Humanity.
> 
> Jesting aside. If you, a guy who really does know about Graphics 
Cards, is
> confused by the Information provided when you do a search, using 
the
> information, what on earth chance does a person who knows 
absolutely nothing
> about Graphics Cards have.
> 
> Asking a question so far Off Base, is being just more than a 
little bit
> cheeky. But in this instance was done is sheer desperation. XXCOPY 
and
> XXCLONE forum members showed their true spirit. It was odd Base, 
for sure.
> But that did not deter. Assistance was instantly provided, 
guidance and
> suggestion.
> To all of those who did provide assistance. My sincere thanks.
> 
> Des, for the Two links you have provided, these will give me more 
to work
> with.
> In your earlier post you did mention " CREATIVE TECHNOLOGY."
> That appears to be a definite possibility. I have in fact left a 
query for
> their Technical People, via email, so hopefully they will get back 
to me.
> If for nothing else, just that one clue has helped enormously.
> 
> My Sincere thanks.
> 
> A Very Happy, and Successful New Year to you Des.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Pat.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "des4212001" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 3:09 PM
> Subject: [xxcopy] Re: Off Base, Graphics Cards??? XC20434
> 
> 
> >
> > snip <

My mention of Creative was in regard to their Sound stuff which is 
their speciality. I have one of their Platinum Audigy2 systems. And 
personally found their installation procedures to be confusing at 
best. Initially ABS, the manufacture of this computer, recommended 
not even installing anything but the drivers as they said there was 
a conflict between the Creative software and the ATI graphics 
drivers. So I tried anyway and was rewarded by having to reload 
Windows and everything else from scratch. I found the Creative 
Support to be less than worthless. Following their recomendations 
would be to guarantee screwing up your computer much worse than it 
ever was before seeking their assistance.

After waiting months, and struggling through I finally managing to 
get their many seperate modules installed. By sneaking it on one 
item at a time. Creative updates work this way you see, you have 
have the original installed, whether it works or not, or even if 
it's screwing up your computer, to be able to update it! I must 
admit though when finally working it's all farily nice. But huge, 
complicated, and still not bug free. The speakers will just up and 
POP loudly for no known reason, scaring the hell out of me whan I'm 
quitely working. And now with SP2 the machine won't restore from 
hibernation more than a couple of times in a row without crashing on 
restart and the sound reverting from 6.1 to 2.1 all by it's self. 
And Zone Alarm Pro forgetting it's alerts... so it's very hard to 
say who's at fault here. But forcing me to abandon hibernation where 
I used to be able to go weeks without re-booting. Since SP2 the 
trouble cycle has stared over again. Calling for more months of 
updates by everyone, resolving this and that.

There have been several updates to the ATI graphics drivers over 
that period as well, so who actually finally eliminated the original 
confict is unknown? Aside, the last ATI graphics update included a 
new control panel which required the Microsoft.NET framework. Like a 
fool I tried it. And after a couple of days I then spent another 
couple of days getting rid of it. It would have been much easier to 
just restore the OS partition but no I took it as a personal 
challenge and learning experience to manually undo everything 
that .NET had wrapped it's tentacles around. You have no idea! This 
may be the direction of the future but personally I shall postpone 
that move as long as possible.

The moral of this story is, be careful what you wish for. An old 
engineering premise is, "Your most reliable piece of hardware is the 
one you don't have." And this most especially applies to software. 
My "old" computer has run from 1998 on integrated graphics, with no 
updates and more importantly no trouble. But no, I had to step up to 
Fancy. Which I now equate with Complicated and Trouble Guaranteed.

DES



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