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Number   :  9592
Date     :  2005-01-05
Author   :  des4212001
Subject  :  Re: An Interesting Synchronization Problem
Size(KB) :  3



--- In xxcopy@yahoogroups.com, "des4212001"  wrote:
> 
> --- In xxcopy@yahoogroups.com, "des4212001"  wrote:
> > 
> > --- In xxcopy@yahoogroups.com, "des4212001"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Nothing to do with xxcopy, but this is one of the few places 
you 
> > can 
> > > get any real help.
> > > 
> > > I use Webroot's WindowWasher which has a nice Cookie Keeper 
> > function 
> > > allowing ID cookies of various forms to be kept. (ZAP does the 
> > same 
> > > thing in a different way.) WindowWasher's domain & cookie info 
> and 
> > > the cookies themseleves can be readily transfered between 
> > computers. 
> > > But the Cookie folder is apparently only a copy of cookies in 
> the 
> > > Temporary Internet Files folder. You can put things in the 
> cookie 
> > > folder, but apparently only IE can load anything in the 
> Temporary 
> > > Internet Files folder. In W98 at least, Drag & Drop "appears" 
to 
> > > circumvent this but nothing actually shows up as transfered. 
The 
> > > Temperorary Internet Files folder is one of those mysterious 
> > system 
> > > areas anyway. If you use the Internet Options to delete these 
> > files 
> > > they will copy anyway in a disk copy outside Windows, even 
> though 
> > > invisible to Explorer. All I've ever figured is, Windows makes 
> the 
> > > space available, but doesn't actually delete anything there. 
Or 
> > it's 
> > > still available to them that knows how? Where 
> WindowWasher "seems" 
> > > to actually get rid of it. But I digress...
> > > 
> > > I'm wanting to transfer the daily updated cookie data from my 
> > active 
> > > machine to my backup machine. Any ideas on how to load 
anything 
> > into 
> > > the Temporary Internet Files in W98? Short of actually going 
to 
> > the 
> > > same places on both machines that is!
> > > 
> > > DES
> > 
> > Refining the question... I've since learned that cookies are in 
> the 
> > cookies folder (surprise!) and what's in the Temporary Internet 
> > Files folder is only a pointer to the actual cookie. So now the 
> > question is, does a web site recognize a cookie if it's in the 
> > Cookies folder but there's no "pointer" to it in the Temp 
Internet 
> > Files? Seems like I can actually test that myself... I'll let me 
> > know!
> > 
> > DES
> 
> That was quick... and the answer is no. The "pointer" in the Temp 
> Internet Files folder to the cookie in the cookies folder is what 
> matters. So instead of how does one load a cookie there... how 
does 
> one get a pointer to a cookie there? Anybody?
> 
> As far as cookie pointers go, what Explorer shows over there isn't 
> seen here over the network. And copying one from here to there 
will 
> show up here but not there! I'm a little more than slightly 
confused 
> (nothing new actually).
> 
> DES

Nothing like answering your own questions. But just in case anyone's 
interested... The info Windows uses to point to the cookies (show 
them in the Temperory Internet Files) is in the index.dat file in 
the Cookies folder. The only way I currently know to get Windows to 
use it is after updating the Cookies them selves, delete the 
index.dat on the next start. Windows will create a new one, but more 
importantly reference the cookies in the Temporary Internet Files.

While I have suceeded is getting W98 to use an XP created index.dat 
file, there are some differences in how W98 handles some cookies vs. 
XP. So I feel it's better to let whichever flavor create it's own. 
Now, IE (or Windows?) gets around this kludge. I'd certainly be 
interested in duplicating that with out having to wait for a restart 
on the destination to see the results... Anybody?

Oh, and the structure inside the Temporary Internet Files 
(Content.ie5 & system folders per days of History) exists in XP just 
as W98, only XP won't show (or share) it. But then XP doesn't show a 
whole lot of stuff (I call Beyond Hidden) that's actually there. I 
have anther tool, the Paragon Partition Explorer, that gets around 
this.

DES



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